Who We Are

Sarah Brodie, MA, RP. Sarah is a licensed psychotherapist and art therapist. Her practice of psychotherapy has been enriched by the elegance of Real Dialogue since training with Polly Young Eisendrath from 2016 onwards. Sarah is honoured to be a part of the faculty as the Center for Real Dialogue and to teach skills to end war and stop dehumanization in all our relations. Sarah works at The Arterie in Burlington, Ontario, Canada.

Is a licensed clinical psychologist with over 25 years of experience in organizational management, leadership development, and clinical psychotherapy. His PhD is in Clinical Psychology with an emphasis in Depth Psychology. He is a certified Dialogue Therapist and Real Dialogue Specialist, and he maintains a private practice in Albany, New York, working with individuals and couples.

Peggy Dippen, M.Ed., is an educator, facilitator, and guide dedicated to fostering love, gratitude, and compassion. Since 1997, she has worked in public education as a teacher, coordinator, and coach. A Courage & Renewal Facilitator, Real Dialogue Specialist, Yoga Teacher, and Mindfulness-Based Psychedelic Guide, she integrates mindfulness and embodiment practices to support healing and transformation. In 2022, she founded Mindful Journeywork to help individuals deepen self-awareness, connection, and personal growth.

Robin Junker-Boyce is Pastor at First Congregational Church UCC in Thetford, Vermont. She has a BS in Biology and a Masters Degree in Psychology and Religious Studies, with an extended focus on hospital chaplaincy. Previously she completed a twelve-year ministerial post at Bethany Church UCC in Randolph, Vermont. She is a Real Dialogue Specialist and studying to become a Dialogue Therapist for Couples. Her passions are preaching, community building, contemplative prayer, and the intersection between science and spirituality.

Susan Lillich, PhD, is a licensed clinical psychologist, a Dialogue Therapist, and the director of clinical training for Dialogue Therapy at the Center for Real Dialogue. Susan has been in private practice in Vermont for over 20 years, working with individuals and couples. She also provides clinical supervision and consultation for other professionals. Susan is a longtime practitioner of Zen Buddhism.

Nancy Mathews, PhD, recently served as the Provost and Executive Vice President of Central Michigan University, from 2022-2024, during which time she spear-headed the CMU Strategic Plan to create an academic vision and plan for the next two decades.

Prior to her appointment at CMU, Nancy served for eight years as Dean of the Rubenstein School of Environmental and Natural Resources at the University of Vermont. Before her deanship, Nancy served for 20 years as a Professor of Wildlife Ecology and Environmental Studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Nancy has served as a member of the Executive Committees of the National Association of Forest Research Programs and the National Association of Fish and Wildlife Programs. She also served on the Board of Directors of the International Crane Foundation and as an elected Trustee for the Higher Learning Commission.

Margot Parker LMFT, is a marriage and family therapist and certified Dialogue Therapist. She has a private practice in Thousand Oaks, California, and sees clients through telehealth in Los Angeles, Santa Monica, and San Diego.

Leland Peterson MA, ATR-BC, is a Board Certified Art Therapist, Certified Dialogue Therapist and Psychotherapist with over 30 years of experience in providing art therapy, individual and couples counseling, and supervision services. He established and directed the Creative Arts Therapies Program at Concordia University in Montreal, Quebec, and is an adjunct professor in the Creative Arts Therapies Department at Concordia and President of the Art therapy Association of Vermont.

Amber Rickert, LCSW, MPH is a psychotherapist working in private practice in both Vermont and California. Amber specializes in working with PTSD, developmental trauma, and couple therapy. Amber is certified in Dialogue Therapy/Real Dialogue, Emotional Transformation Therapy, and is a Certified Clinical Trauma Specialist.

Rosa María Rigol, PhD, is a licensed clinical psychologist and Dialogue Therapist in Miami, Florida. As a bilingual (English/Spanish) clinician, she offers psychoanalytic psychotherapy to individuals and Dialogue Therapy to couples and adult dyads. Dr. Rigol earned her doctoral degree from Michigan State University and completed internship and post-doctoral training at The Cambridge Hospital, Harvard Medical School. Her interests include immigration, Latina/o mental health, and relational psychoanalysis. She has been in practice since 2001 and specializes in the treatment of anxiety, mood disorders, and interpersonal conflict.

Pamela Williams, MSS, LSW, is an educator with a background in clinical social work and research. She holds Certificates in Instructional Leadership Coaching from Harvard Graduate School of Education, in Independent School Leadership from Johns Hopkins Graduate School of Education and Business, an MSS from Bryn Mawr Graduate School of Social Work, and a BA from Sarah Lawrence College. Currently working in the Burlington School District (VT). She has been an instructor at Bryn Mawr College School of Social Work and Community College of Vermont. She is a Certified Real Dialogue Specialist.